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A pool area with a wooden deck, lounge chairs, and a view of the sea.
A secluded resort with a red-roofed pavilion, a swimming pool, and lush tropical vegetation.
A wooden deck with a view of the ocean, a covered seating area with chairs, and a table.
A coastal landscape with a house overlooking the sea, surrounded by lush greenery and a clear sky.
A room with a wooden deck, a chair with a floral cushion, and a view of the ocean.

Reviews

9.2 out of 10
Wonderful

Entire home

4 bedrooms5 bathroomsSleeps 103200 sq ft

Popular amenities

  • Ocean view
  • Pool
  • Kitchen
  • Washer
  • Dryer
  • Pet friendly

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Dominical, Puntarenas
  • Place, Playa Dominicalito
    ‪7 min drive‬
  • Place, Dominicalito Beach
    ‪7 min drive‬
  • Place, Hacienda Baru
    ‪8 min drive‬
  • Airport, Quepos (XQP)
    ‪58 min drive‬

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About the neighborhood

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Located in Bahía Ballena, this villa is by the ocean, a 4-minute drive from Alturas Wildlife Sanctuary and 6 minutes from Playa Dominicalito. .This villa is 3.8 mi (6.1 km) from Dominicalito Beach and 4.5 mi (7.3 km) from Hacienda Baru.
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What's nearby

  • Playa Dominicalito - 7 min drive - 3.8 miles
  • Dominicalito Beach - 7 min drive - 3.8 miles
  • Hacienda Baru - 8 min drive - 4.9 miles
  • Playa Dominical - 11 min drive - 6.0 miles
  • Marino Ballena National Park - 17 min drive - 9.9 miles

Getting around

  • Quepos (XQP) - 38 min drive

Restaurants

  • Restaurante Nativo
  • Kinsu
  • ‪Fernando’s Restaurante - ‬14 min drive
  • ‪Falafel Uvita - ‬14 min drive
  • ‪Panoramika Café Uvita - ‬10 min drive

About this property

Entire place

You'll have the entire home to yourself and will only share it with other guests in your party.

4BR Oceanfront Luxury Villa • Private Estate • Spectacular Sunsets


TOP FEATURES

• Perfectly located between Dominical and Uvita, close to beautiful beaches, waterfalls, and adventure.

• Dramatic clifftop setting with breathtaking Pacific Ocean views and unforgettable sunsets.

• Private 12-acre oceanfront estate surrounded by rainforest, wildlife, and complete tranquility.

• Spacious four-bedroom villa with a separate guest house, ideal for families and groups.

• Private pool, expansive wraparound decks, and direct access to nature just steps from your door.

• Personalized Escape Villas concierge with private chef services and curated local experiences.

Experience Introduction

Wake up to the sound of waves crashing below your private oceanfront estate, surrounded by lush rainforest, tropical wildlife, and breathtaking views of the Pacific Ocean. Perched atop a dramatic cliff between Dominical and Uvita, Puertocito Point offers a rare combination of complete privacy, spectacular scenery, and authentic Costa Rican charm.

Whether you're planning a family vacation, reconnecting with friends, or simply looking to disconnect from everyday life, this remarkable retreat invites you to slow down, embrace nature, and experience one of Costa Rica's most peaceful coastal settings.

The Villa

• Nestled within 12 private oceanfront acres, Puertocito Point combines a spacious main residence with a separate guest house, comfortably accommodating up to ten guests while providing privacy for everyone in your group.

• The main villa features bright open living spaces that flow seamlessly onto an expansive 180-degree wraparound terrace, where panoramic ocean views become the backdrop for every meal, morning coffee, and unforgettable sunset. Large accordion-style doors invite refreshing ocean breezes throughout the home, creating a true indoor-outdoor tropical living experience.

• The separate guest house offers additional comfort and privacy, making the property an excellent choice for extended families, couples traveling together, or groups seeking their own private spaces while sharing unforgettable moments throughout the estate.

Signature Experiences

Life at Puertocito Point revolves around the natural beauty that surrounds it. Spend your mornings watching monkeys, toucans, butterflies, and sloths from the terrace, relax beside the private pool overlooking the Pacific, or follow nearby trails to discover secluded beaches and hidden coastal landscapes.

Evenings become the highlight of every stay as spectacular sunsets paint the horizon while the sound of the ocean provides the perfect backdrop for outdoor dinners with family and friends. Few places offer such an extraordinary connection between luxury, privacy, and nature.

Escape Villas Services

Exceptional locations deserve exceptional service.

• From the moment you reserve your stay, the Escape Villas concierge team is available to personalize every aspect of your vacation, including airport transfers, private transportation, grocery pre-stocking, restaurant recommendations, adventure tours, spa treatments, and customized local experiences.

• Private chef services are available upon request, allowing you to enjoy memorable dining experiences without ever leaving the comfort of your oceanfront retreat.

• Our goal is simple: relax, reconnect with nature, and enjoy the very best of Costa Rica while we take care of every detail.

The Destination

Perfectly positioned between Dominical and Uvita, Puertocito Point places you within easy reach of some of Costa Rica's most beautiful beaches, waterfalls, surfing, whale watching, national parks, and outdoor adventures. Despite its convenient location, the property feels wonderfully secluded, offering the rare sensation of having your own private piece of the Pacific coast.

Important Information About Your Stay

• Housekeeping service is provided every other day. For reservations made within 60 days of arrival, housekeeping service is available for an additional daily fee arranged through your host.

• Laundry facilities are reserved for staff use only.

• A refundable $500–$1,000 USD security deposit, depending on group size, is required at check-in to cover any incidental damages or missing items. Additional deposits may apply for approved pets.

• All published rates include mandatory fees with no hidden charges.
Make yourself comfortable in this air-conditioned villa, which features a private pool and a Smart TV. There's a private balcony. A kitchen is outfitted with a refrigerator, an oven, and a stovetop. Complimentary wireless internet access keeps you connected, and a DVD player is provided for your entertainment.
Pamper yourself with onsite massages or enjoy recreation amenities such as an outdoor pool. Additional features at this villa include concierge services and barbecue grills.
Breakfast is available for a fee.
Guests will find features like internet access and onsite parking.

Property amenities

Beach

  • Beach nearby
  • Beach towels

Pool/Spa

  • Massage
  • Outdoor pool
  • Private pool

Internet

  • Available in the villa: Free WiFi

Parking and transportation

  • Car recommended
  • Onsite parking options include a garage

Kitchen

  • Blender
  • Coffee/tea maker
  • Cookware, dishware, and utensils
  • Dishwasher
  • Kitchen island
  • Kitchenette
  • Microwave
  • Oven
  • Paper towels
  • Refrigerator
  • Spices
  • Stovetop
  • Toaster

Dining

  • Breakfast available for a fee
  • Chef service
  • Dining table

Bedrooms

  • 4 bedrooms
  • Bedsheets provided

Bathroom

  • 4.5 bathrooms
  • Bathtub
  • Hair dryer
  • Shower
  • Soap
  • Toilet paper
  • Towels provided

Living spaces

  • Dining table
  • Separate dining area

Entertainment

  • Books
  • DVD player
  • Smart TV with cable/satellite channels
  • Stereo

Outdoor areas

  • Balcony
  • Barbecue grill
  • Fenced yard
  • Garden
  • Outdoor furniture

Laundry

  • Laundry facilities
  • Washing machine

Comfort

  • Air conditioning

Pets

  • Pet friendly
  • Welcoming cats and dogs only
  • 2 pets total (up to 22 lbs per pet)

Suitability/Accessibility

  • If you have requests for specific accessibility needs, please contact the property using the information on the reservation confirmation received after booking.
  • Wheelchair accessibility
  • Smoking not allowed
  • Note from host: Outside only please

Services and conveniences

  • Concierge services
  • Iron/ironing board
  • Limited housekeeping
  • Meal delivery service
  • Phone
  • Safe

Location highlights

  • In a rural location
  • Near a health/beauty spa
  • Near a hospital
  • Near the ocean
  • On the waterfront

Things to do

  • Birdwatching nearby
  • Ecotours nearby
  • Fishing nearby
  • Hiking/biking trails nearby
  • Horseback riding nearby
  • Jet skiing nearby
  • Kayaking nearby
  • Motor boating nearby
  • Mountain biking nearby
  • Rafting nearby
  • Rock climbing nearby
  • Sailing nearby
  • Scuba diving nearby
  • Snorkeling nearby
  • Surfing/bodyboarding nearby
  • Swimming nearby
  • Water tubing nearby
  • Whale watching nearby
  • Wildlife walks nearby

Safety features

  • Carbon monoxide detector not reported (host has not indicated whether there is a carbon monoxide detector on the property; consider bringing a portable detector)
  • Smoke detector not reported (host has not indicated whether there is a smoke detector on the property)
  • First aid kit
  • Fire extinguisher
  • Deadbolt lock

General

  • Garden
  • Unit size: 3,200 square feet

Policies

Check-in

Check-in time starts at 3:00 PM

Check-out

Check-out before 11:00 AM

Special check-in instructions

You will receive an email from the host with check-in and check-out instructions
Information provided by the property may be translated using automated translation tools

Pets

Pets allowed
Welcoming dogs and cats only
2 total (up to 22 lbs per pet)
Restrictions apply; for more information contact the property at the number on the booking confirmation
Note from host: One small pet with a refundable deposit of $500

Children and extra beds

Children are welcome
Note from host: Great for children of all ages

Events

Events allowed: family gatherings, birthday parties, weddings
Pre-approved, 30 guests, with fees

Smoking

Smoking is not permitted
Outside only please

Important information

You need to know

Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy
Government-issued photo identification and a credit card, debit card, or cash deposit may be required at check-in for incidental charges
Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed
Parties and events (including family gatherings, birthday parties and weddings) are allowed on site; maximum attendees: 30
Note from host: Pre-approved, 30 guests, with fees
Host has not indicated whether there is a carbon monoxide detector on the property; consider bringing a portable detector with you on the trip
Host has not indicated whether there is a smoke detector on the property
Safety features at this property include a fire extinguisher, a first aid kit, and a deadbolt lock
This property has outdoor spaces, such as balconies, patios, terraces which may not be suitable for children; if you have concerns, we recommend contacting the property prior to your arrival to confirm they can accommodate you in a suitable room
This property is managed through our partner, Vrbo. You will receive an email from Vrbo with a link to a Vrbo account, where you can change or cancel your reservation

We should mention

A car is recommended for transportation to and from this property

4BR Oceanfront Luxury Villa • Private Estate • Spectacular Sunsets Reviews

Reviews

9.2

Wonderful

Rating 10 - Excellent. 14 out of 20 reviews
Rating 8 - Good. 4 out of 20 reviews
Rating 6 - Okay. 2 out of 20 reviews
Rating 4 - Poor. 0 out of 20 reviews
Rating 2 - Terrible. 0 out of 20 reviews

8.6/10

Cleanliness

Reviews

Verified review

6/10 Okay

Carmen K.

Liked: Check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy

breathtaking view and too many geckos

the view to ocean was perfect, abundant wild life (monkeys, hummingbirds, many butterflies species and magnificent nigh life creatures) down side: to many geckos inside house and they poop constantly on tables, couches and chairs and since their droppings carried diseases we had had to keep everything cover and wear shoes
Stayed 3 nights in Jul 2019
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Bill B.

Breathtaking Million Dollar View

The house and the property are incredible. We all loved the house, the property and view, and the pool. Our first night we had the Chef prepare us dinner. I thought we were a 5 Star restaurant. We had fillet Mignon, Mahi Mahi with coconut sauce, mashed potatoes, salad, and home made coconut cake. It was one the the best meals I have every eaten. He set the table, served us and did the dishes. Would highly recommend this option. All the staff are very professional, and on top of every detail. Fernando in sales, Indra in the concierge dept. and Kim the house host, they are all great and provide great costumer service way down in the jungle of Costa Rica. I definitely will be staying there again on my next trip to CR .
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Cindy C.

Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy

Perfect

Our three families with young kids had an amazing time in Costa Rica with this gorgeous home as our base camp. It is located within 15 minutes of incredible beaches, waterfalls, and forests full of animals that surround the home. The hike-to beach down from the house was not difficult for our 7 year olds and was like having a private beach-at low tide we found snorkeling there too. There are several close beaches with fun surf and features that our host told us about. From the multiple decks you see the ocean, monkeys, coatis, birds galore, and butterflies. Our families cooked and congregated in the spacious and comfortable main house, but had privacy and space in the evenings. The bedrooms are cool, quiet, and well appointed. The house also had air mattresses for the kids to use. The hammock, decks, and pool are all open from the house so you can enjoy the outdoors all the time. It was a great privilege to be the first one up to open the big doors, check out the morning wildlife, and cut fresh fruit for breakfast having a few quiet moments to swing in the hammock or lounge on the deck. After a hot day in the surf and sand, the pool was a welcome treat we used throughout the day. I also appreciated the many details of this house: vaulted ceiling, courtyard garden, tiled and wood floors, and carved doors. Our host was so helpful, communicating as often as we needed and gave us suggestions for kid friendly activities- she really cared about our time in Costa Rica and made the trip easy and fun. The housekeeper helped keep the home clean and organized. This is a lovely, convenient, and family friendly home hosted professionally and personally. We are all very satisfied with our stay and would love to visit again soon.
Stayed 7 nights in Oct 2019
Verified review

8/10 Good

Cathy S.

Liked: Cleanliness, location, listing accuracy

The view outweighs all of the negatives!

Pros: 1. The view is incredible! 2. Wildlife abounds! There is a sloth that lives in a tree by the pool. Monkeys frequented the property daily as dud toucans. 3. We liked the location because of the easy access to the main road. Driving was very easy. Cons: 1. Communication with the house concierge from Escape villas was poor. After making the booking, emails went unanswered and I often had to send messages a couple of times weeks apart to get answers to my questions. It was so bad, there was a time I thought we had been scammed! We did ask them to coordinate our car rental for drop off/ pick up from the house and there were no issues with that. Once there, they were more responsive and our house host was very friendly and nice to work with locally. 2. Check in did not go as planned as we were unable to get a message to go through to the house host. We finally got a message through to her and were given the wrong key lock code. We had to wait for the host to physically come to let us in. 3. The house itself has amazing potential, but needs maintenance. The wood floors in the master bathroom are warped and soft and felt like they were going to just give out under our feet. Also, the 3 large walls of glass doors were very difficult to open/ close and one entire section was broken. 4. Security- be sure to lock doors at all times. The door to the casita was left unlocked when we went to dinner and people stole the tv, our camera and some of our clothes.
Stayed 5 nights in Feb 2023
Verified review

6/10 Okay

Camille G.

Liked: Communication, location
Disliked: Cleanliness

Great location, the house could've been better

The location and view were fantastic. We loved sitting out and watching the birds/animals and ocean. The kids enjoyed the pool. The house we didn't love as much. In our opinion, the pictures were a bit misleading and it was overpriced for what we got. Our first night there we lost all power for about 10 hours and had no ac, water or internet. No one slept much that night. They got that fixed and then the internet went out the following day and was out until the next afternoon. We had internet in the main house after that, but not the casita. There were lizards and bugs on our ceilings and floors because there are big gaps under and around the doors and wire mesh on upper walls of the main room. We had to make sure any food was stored in the refrigerator, which was a typical American size fortunately. No AC in the main room made it so we didn't want to hang out there because it was so hot all the time and only very occasionally was there a breeze off the ocean to cool things off when we left the doors open. There were only 2 rooms in the main house and they were far apart from each other. The casita was a building a couple hundred feet from the main house and had 2 rooms which were not connected in any way. You had to walk outside and around about 75ft to get from one room to the other. We had 2 families that went with kids (though fortunately they weren't young) and it was a problem because the people in the upper room had absolutely no contact at night with the kids in the lower room. The main house doors are very old and are difficult to open and some don't open at all. Also, the floors in the main house are broken all over. In one of the main house bedrooms, water from the shower would leak out onto the floor of the bedroom. There are also random stairs all thru the house. In the master bedroom there are 5 sets of stairs. There are 4 beds total between the main house and casita and all were okay, a little hard but typical of the area. There was no hammock outside as shown in the pictures. There is a lot of space in the main house and a small kitchen in the upper room of the casita which was nice. It also had covered parking for a car and was a very quiet and private area. The manager was responsive and the cleaning lady came in twice a week which was also great.
Stayed 5 nights in Apr 2023
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Frank Z.

Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy

Ferienwohnung

Es war sehr ruhig .die wohnung traf voll unserer vorstellung
Stayed 7 nights in Feb 2023
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Molly C.

Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy

Perfect ocean and forest/ wildlife views

We loved this property. Stunning ocean views, almost 180 degrees from the whales tail all the way to the sunset. We kept the sliding window-walls open all the daylight hours we were home. All the wildlife came right to the surrounding trees and yard so when we didn't have time to go to manuel Antonio, that was ok! Our group was 3 families all having kids and while we were under the capacity of the rental, the sleeping arrangement were a little difficult (we needed to make sure all the little kids had access to parents in the night without needing to go outdoors). Having multiple beds, cots, or fold out couches in the bedrooms would have been perfect. As far as I figure, this was the only negative and we were able to work it out in the end.
Stayed 7 nights in Jul 2022
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Cyndi C.

Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy

Incredible Ocean View

We were blown away by the 180° view of ocean from inside and outside this property. We loved the observation deck where we could see the waves crashing against rocks while at the same time being in the middle of a beautiful rain forest and manicured garden. We generally love active vacations, but we had a hard time wanting to leave the view and the pool. We were there in June, during the rainy season, and we really appreciated the deep overhanging decks where we could watch the afternoon storms from the hammock and stay dry. We went to sleep every night to the sounds of waves and rainforest. The house has a fun hacienda vibe, including a lovely courtyard. It is big enough with the cute casita to fit 8-10 comfortably. It is not too far from the main road but 4x drive was helpful. It does look a little tired in some places, and there were a few tiny lizards that would come hang out on the high ceiling in the evenings. (They never bothered us.) Neither of those facts meant anything to us compared to the awesome, totally private grounds and view. If a lovely ocean view and privacy are your priorities, this is your spot! Indra was easy to contact and work with.
Stayed 3 nights in Jun 2021
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Clémentine A.

Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy

one week in paradise

The better place to deconect with any stress and conect with nature!
Stayed 7 nights in May 2020
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Alejandro S.

Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy

Maravilloso lugar.

Excelente casa, invita a regresar. Vistas impresionantes, anfitriones muy atentos.
Stayed 3 nights in Jan 2020
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Kevin L.

Beautiful place, lots of space, amazing views!!!

Great hospitality, amazing place! We loved it. We look forward to our next stay! We had 2 people who weren't very mobile. And it was easy for them to move around the Villa.
Verified review

8/10 Good

Steven M.

Beautiful home and ocean view!

Enjoyed the pool and ocean view. The casita was nice for family to join us. The home is spacious and beautiful.
Stayed 12 nights in Jun 2018
Verified review

8/10 Good

Carol P.

Outstanding concierge (Gary), location, pool and view; villa itself does need some repair

The property is situated on a lovely bluff overlooking the Pacific. The views are amazing and really what makes the place worth a visit. The pool is wonderful and the kitchen was a pleasure to make meals in. Gary Garrett (concierge) is wonderful -- very helpful and responsive, despite many, many problems on our end with respect to travel, lost luggage, etc. The biggest drawback to the place is that seating really isn't conducive to conversation outside. Inside is OK, but outdoors, it's not so easy. The outdoor sofas are comfortable, but all in a row facing the water, so you can't easily "huddle" to chat outdoors. More easily-moveable outdoor chairs are very much needed. The 2 bar chairs on over the upper deck are not comfortable. The other drawback is that the main house needs some significant repairs. They're apparently "in progress", but in light of the very significant water leaks - especially in the master bedroom - they need to be addressed quickly to avoid major, costly damage to the property.
Stayed 6 nights in May 2018
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

malcolm g.

Amazing property!

This is a beautifully designed home with wonderful views of the jungle and ocean. The warm pool was a delight when we swam watching the beautiful sunset with the monkeys frolicking nearby. With the glass walls open, we enjoyed cool breezes throughout the day. The house is in a very private location. The agents of the owner were extremely welcoming, knowledgeable and reliable.
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Rachel S.

Absolutely Beautiful spot!

Beautiful house, with gorgeous views of the ocean. Plenty of space for up to 8 people. The area around the house is very fun to hang out in, lots of animals constantly around! Indra & Gary were very responsive and helped the check in/check out process go smoothly. Very clean house, you have to be OK with some gecko friends though!
Verified review

10/10 Excellent

Adam K.

Stunning Property in a great location

Our crew loved our stay at Puertocito Point. The layout of the property with the main house and the casita was perfect for our situation. We loved the sunrise pool sessions with all of the Costa Rican vibrancy greeting us to start the day. The management and the service was outstanding, attending to our every question and request. We are excited to come back and stay again next year, and can't recommend this property enough.
Archival

10/10 Excellent

Danny M.

Magical Stay at Puertocito Point

I cannot begin to express how wonderful our stay at Puertocito Point was. Everything about the house was perfect! From the moment that we saw the property, all we could think about was how the photos did not do it justice. The house was a piece of Costa Rica heaven and made for the vacation of a lifetime. Alejandro, the property manager, was very kind and did an excellent job of showing us around the property and answered all of our questions about the house. He additionally gave us great recommendations on what to do in the area. If you are a nature lover and are looking for the best possible experience, look no further. This will make for an unforgettable stay and we will forever hold this place in our hearts. We cannot wait to visit again in the future! Thank you, Casa Puertocito Point!
Archival

10/10 Excellent

Steve G.

Dam You Puertocito!!......

Staying at this villa has now made it impossible for us to stay at any other location - anywhere. If I was looking for heaven, this is the place. The house is situated perfectly at the end of a ridge on a bluff overlooking a 180o view of the Pacific coastline. The location is ideal - 2 minutes to the highway and 10 minutes to either Uvita or Dominical. The little beach below is an easy 10 minutes down to, but a hefty 25 minutes back up. Yes, the deck repair is a work in progress and some minor maintenance is needed, but this also gives the place a warm and lived in feel. Plenty of dishes and towels and just the right amount of kitchen accessories. We spent lots of time on the promontory decks and pool, both were comfortable and inviting. The only thing that could be added is an additional umbrella on the lower deck - that sun can be searing. It was a struggle to leave the villa to explore other beaches and attractions, but we did - and looked forward to returning in the afternoon to enjoy the pool and spectacular sunsets. I can't wait to plan the next stay at Puertocito Point!
Archival

10/10 Excellent

John L.

Fabulous location-definitely would stay there again

Our family has visited the southern zone about 10 times in the last 10 years. We were delighted to find this secluded home with panoramic views of the Pacific soclose to all our favorite spots including Rancho La Merced for horseback riding on the beach and las Ventanas beach for body surfing. Its spacious living area that can be fully open air was a delight after a long day of activities and the casita was perfect for our late teen kids. The kitchen was well equipped and there is even a good fruit stand a short jog down the road. We can't imagine a better palce for 2 families to stay and will definitely bring more friends to introduce them both to the souterhern zone and this vacation home in particular. The staff was helpful but not intrusive. The pool was well maintained.
Archival

8/10 Good

Great location, awesome time with wonderful views

I would do 4.5 if I could. Perfectly located between Uvita and Dominical. Best and closest beach is Playa Hermosa. We loved it. Park in the shade just a few steps from the beach with no hassles. The house is great. The only negative item was the deck. I believe they have been working to improve it but it still needs a little more updating with new boards. The pools is great however had a couple shape corners but wasn't a huge deal. Property Manager and cleaning lady were fantastic. Would highly recommend and would stay here again as long as decking is updated. Like I said would rate at 4.5 if I could.